As I have intimated before, there seems to be two main streams of Christian diversion...I'll be nice and call it that instead of using the word heresy...the Seeker-Sensitives (read that Willowcreek and Saddleback); and the Third Wave revivalists (read that Toronto, Brownsville, etc.). You may also throw in the WOF'ers (read that Hagin, Copeland et. al.) if you wish although I've already showed that there are many redeemable theological traits in that camp (see Answered Prayer).
There are some smaller streams of "diversion" such as universalism which now has reared its ugly head since Carleton Pearson's switcheroo. And the open view or open theism as it is also called which seems to be confined to a few seminaries and Bethel College. But most Christians have never heard of these views so they aren't that threatening.
Anyway, here is more craziness from the other two big ones..the seeker-sensitives and the Third Wavers.
First from Jill Austin, a Third Wave...well...I guess prophetess....I'm not sure what she calls herself. She is the one who used to come to churches doing the Potter's Clay presentation. She would make a pot in the church and tell us how God forms us in our character. It was interesting. But it seems that Jill has embraced the "revival."
She says in the recent email from the Elijah list,
"the ultimate goal in prayer is not to have our prayers answered but to encounter God Himself."
Really? Where is that in the NT? Oh it isn't there? It seems to me when people in the NT prayed, they prayed so they could have their prayers answered. You don't encounter God through prayers.....you encounter God through Christ, although prayer might be the vehicle. But then, there is that pesky word the Third Wavers just do not like to mention--Christ.
Why does Ms. Austin's statement sound so Roman Catholic? Why does the whole Third Wave seem so Roman Catholic?
I sure wish these people would read their Bibles.
OK..now for the seeker sensitive craziness. An Internet friend is hot on their trail as she researches what they are up to. To protect her identity, I won't tell you how she found this out, but let's say she heard it from many of the follower's mouths, especially those from one of the KEY seeker sensitive churches (see above). Here are some of the things they were saying:
"church is for the unchurched.."
Wow! In my Bible it seems to clearly indicate that church is for Christians. I'm not sure if this person meant the unsaved, or the saved who don't attend church..or what. But earlier there was another conversation where they indicated that scads of unsaved were attending.
I sure wish people would read their Bibles.
Here are some more:
"People don't need to bring their Bibles. The Scripture passages used are on the overhead projector screen."
Hmmm....maybe someone would like to read the whole chapter to see what the Bible is really saying.
I sure wish these people would bring their Bibles to church so they could READ them.
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