I need to interupt my Future series because of what has happened with Andrew Strom. For those of you who haven't a clue as to who I'm talking about, let me give some background.
In one of my first posts, True Revival, I set forth the differences between this so-called current (Third Wave) false revival and the true one I sense is following.
Enter Andrew Strom. A few years ago I found a prophetic email list hosted by one Andrew Strom from New Zealand. At first of course I thought it would be another Third Wave prophetic tool. But, I began to see that this guy was not of the Third Wave ilk. In fact he even had grave reservations about the Toronto "blessing." The more I read his list, the more I saw he probably was a forerunner of the true prophets in the true revival.
But then he got the idea to leave New Zealand and come to America. And that is where the problems began. He landed in Kansas City, Mike Bickle land, the one who introduced the "prophets" to the vineyard in the 80's. And that was the forerunner of the current movement. Add Dr. C. Peter Wagner, John Arnott and the Browsnville crowd and presto! You have the Third Wave.
Since Mr. Strom has arrived on America's shores, his message seems to have changed radically. That is, unless he believed these things all along. There are two main problems I saw, that is until recently when he got his eyes open to the first one.
First, he began to really get behind the Third Wave prophets like Cain, Jones, Joyner and the gang. I won't be so unkind as to let you in on what is going on with some of these guys..but let's say they are in disaray as to "purity." For instance, right now, Bickle and company are tearing their hair out trying to figure out what to do with Paul Cain. I've predicted this for 15 years. And what happened to Strom at the "conference" could have been predicted. One simply needs discernment which is sorely lacking in the Charismatic and Pentecostal churches today.
So first, Strom thinks these prophets are hot stuff. Then he attends a conference where his discernment finally kicks in. The prophets are there and he doesn't like what he senses. No, I would imagine not. Very occultic (those are my words) and disturbing to the spirit. If you go to his website and read why he is leaving the Prophetic movement you will see the reasons listed. And he couldn't have described the Third Wave occultism any better. So now he has decided, and this are his words, "to leave the prophetic movement." Uh, Andrew, I hate to inform you but the Third Wave prophets are NOT the only game in town. There are others, truer ones like Jacob Prasch, David Wilkerson and maybe Art Katz. I have an idea. Why not join up with those folks?
Second, the other distressing thing that many of us are seeing from Strom is his fascination for the teachings of Charles Finney. Add to that a few whacked out theological ideas and we ahve big problems. He recently presented a series called The Nine Lies of Today's Church.
Here they are in the order he presented them. Most of them are fine, but he does what so many tend to do--go to an extreme. I offer my comments after the dash (-).
1. Asking Jesus into your heart-I agree..isn't in the Bible
2. Church buildings do not exist in the Bible-I think he goes a little overboard here. However, I agree that at times too much money and time is spent on these buldings.
3. The "one pastor runs everything" model- a BIG amen for this one..yes!
4. Tithing is not a New Testament practice-another big amen
5. The words "prosper" and "prosperity" were never used by Jesus at all-Agreed but there is the OT model of prosperity for some--not all and certainly not ostentationess. But let's not go back to the other exteme of the poverty model. There were both rich, poor and in-between in the early first century church. It depends on what God has called you to do and with whom and to whom.
6. There were no Bible colleges or seminaries in the early church period-I have to take issue with him on this one, but I will save that for another time.
7. There is no evidence whatsoever that the early church had their main meeting on Sunday. They basically met everyday from house to house-OK..but let's have leeway here.
8. He says we have replaced the Holy Spirit with programs and more programs.--Yes we have....amen.
9. We preach a humanistic Jeuss today--Yes indeedy we do.
My big recommendation for Mr. Strom is to read anything by Michael Horton. He badly needs to balance the Finneyism.
Here is Andrew Strom's website. You can read the Nine Lies of Today's Church in depth; why he is leaving the "Prophetic Movement," and so forth. You can also sign up to be on his ANZAC email list.
You can also hear his teachings on audio. You will hear what I consider to be a forerunner of the true last day prophets. I just hope he will get back on track in some areas.
Andrew Stroms website is Revival Supersite.
Listen to his teachings here. I would recommend the Thundering in Nashville one.
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