Tuesday, August 31, 2004

Anti-Depressants

I shouldn't be shocked but I am. I really didn't think Christian psychologists would really follow their secular counterparts this far.

Almost every friend I have that has visited a Christian psychologist in the past 10 years has been told basically the same thing:
You have a chemical imbalance in the brain; you need anti-depressants (i.e. Prozac, Zoloft, Lithium).

I would love to ask these pychologists for proof of this so-called chemical imbalance. I would also love to ask them what they think will happen down the road after their clients have taken these pills for many years. Do they think there might be health problems? Have they read the research that has been around for at least a decade showing that 7% of the ADULT population who are on these drugs either attempt or actually do commit suicide? In addition some become violent. Can they reassure us that long term usage will not cause cancer, heart, liver, kidney problems or other terrible diseases?

Hello? Are there any responsible Chrsitian psychologists out there?

I wish they all would read a book by Dr. Peter R. Breggin entitled: Talking Back to Prozac. There are others coming forth saying the same things (although some refute it such as Peter Kramer's book). But from what I am reading from some psychiatrists such as David Healy (Let Them Eat Prozac), the psychiatric community has known for some time that this chemical imbalance stuff is simply a weak theory. Yet, our Christian psychologists are presenting it as absolute fact!

All I want is our Christian professionals to be truthful and know what they are doing before they fool arouhd with our lives. As I posted yesterday, using the power of God, the gifts of the Spirit, Biblical teaching and the gifts in Romans 12:6-8, we should be able to help most people enough to keep them off of at least long term anti-depressant use. But, to saddle one person (the psychologist) with this task is ludicrous. The church as a whole needs to change their counseling-prayer approach. Here is one approach that I have cobbled out in the past decade...but there are of course other avenues that churches can take.
OK..that said..here is my fantasy church counseling-prayer plan, no matter how small or large the church.

In every church you will have people with the 7 gifts listed in Romans 12:6-8 (administration, prophecy, teaching, exhortation, giving, helps, mercy). By the way, notice that I listed them almost in the same order as in the Romans passage. Take the first one (adminitration or governments as it is often called)and note that it is the strongest personality-type. Take the last one (mercy) and note it is the softest personality-type. The others fall in-between in the listed order with exhortation being squarely in the middle, an equal balance of strong and soft.
You will also find people with one or more of the 9 gifts of the Holy Spirit listed in I Corintians 12:8-10.
Now find the most mature people who understand how to function in their gifts humbly. Make sure they aren't flirting around with New Age/occultic spirits becaues a lot of these people who are dying to pray/counsel do have that problem. In other words, they wish to gain control over people.

Have a prayer group of around 7 people or so. Usually there are 3 but that isn't enough. You need more so there will be more gifts and viewpoints operating.
People are prayed for more than once..as long as it takes--and THEN they are followed up to see if prayers have been answered. I personally feel it is good and also safe to have a GOOD psychologist in each group if you can find that many. If there are still problems, then refer that person to the heavy hitter discerners-pray-ers. Some of these people will need psychological help FOR A WHILE. But ten years? I am not talking about psychotic people here. If you have one of those then of course heavy-hitting prayer groups need to work in tandem with a psychiatrist. In almost every church prayer group there is a dearth of follow up. The attitude seems to be, "Well, we prayed and that's that...good luck."
But IMO that is no longer acceptable.No wonder people flee to psychologists.

In fact most people I have known who have gone to Christian psychologists (everyone here in S. California goes to a psychologist..LOL) are not being supported at church. In other words, they have no other place to go. The church gives up on them too soon without really trying much of anything and then "refers" them to a Chrisitan psychologist.

The churches must do better....they really do.



Monday, August 30, 2004

"Christian" Psychology

Last week, it seems that everyone was talking about Depression and Christian psychology (see Jollyblogger and Digitus, Finger & Co. for examples. They are responding to Christian psychologist Adrian Warnock's blog.

So I thought I had better wade into the fray, especially since my view is always the minority one. That is rather sad considering that my view is really the more Christian one. My view is fairly anti-Christian psychology and certainly anti-antidepressant drugs. I'm wondering when and why this has happened in the Body of Christ. Well, upon reflection, I do know when it happened.....in the late 70's and all during the 80's when the Baby Boomers grew up. Gee, do ya think maye that is a coincidence? Or perhaps it follows.

During that era the churches dumped the Bible and common sense and panted after the Christian psychologists in the area of emotional health. The reason for this, after preaching against Christian psychology for so many years, was because the churches weren't really helping many people. So, instead of asking God what to do and searching the Bible for what to do, they asked the Christian psychologists what to do. Of course Christians finally figured out that "Christian" and "psychology" don't go well together since psychology is a type of humanism. It's similar to saying Christian Buddhism or Christian Hinduism. So now we have "Christian counselors." Of course they are the same state licensed psychologists that have always been around. But now, they have changed their title to "fit" into the church more acceptably.

Here is the main problem I have with so-called Christian psychologists. First of all, many of them are Biblically illiterate. Even those that are fairly literate are following Freud, Jung, Rogers, Skinner and the whole humanistic psychological gang waaay too much. I always know what the Christian psychologists will do...I am a prophet...:) Just look at what their secular counterparts are doing and the Christian psychs wll dutifully follow along a few years later. Since they happen to be Christians, they will then put the label "Christian psychology on it." But we must understand that the great majority of these Christian psychs take their graduate training in secular universities and colleges. It is a bit much to expect them to cobble together a fantastic, complete "Christian" psychology. Even the ones who get to the very few accredited Christian psych grad schools (i.e. Fuller Seminary) are waaay liberal in their orientation. They kind of take secular humanistic psychology, throw a few Scripture verses on top and call it Christian psuychology and themselves Christian psychologists. Most Christian psychs are really Christians who also happen to be psychologists. BUT they are NOT Christian psychologists. There are a few true ones out there however, who could fit the latter description. Jay Adams who developed a more Biblical counseling model was one but the Christian psychologists laughed him out of town...in other words...sorry...they were not interested in a Biblical model. They loved their Freudian, Jungian, Rogerian stuff waaay too much. Another psychologist that I read recently is a woman named Jan Silvious. I see she is appearing with the Women of Faith conferences and I think her book "Please Don't Say You Need Me: Biblical Answers to Codependency" is the best Christian book on this subject that I've read. The others, frankly, are pathetic which forces me to constantly recommend secular authors like John Bradshaw. But then sadly, I also have to warn the readers about the secular stuff full of venom toward evangelicals and occultic New Age stuff such as the wizard the reader of Bradshaw is supposed to picture in some of his works. Surely, the Christian psychological community can do better on this important subject. (and no,the book "Boundaries" IMO is very elementary. Sivious' book IMO is so much better).
I do respect those like Adams who have taken those psychological principles that EXPLAIN Biblical ones in laymen's terms.

The church now has disolved into an organization that prays for you and then when the prayer isn't answered, which is usually, they send you to the Christian psychologist. Of course this is expensive. So what do they tell poor people? Weakly they say, "Well, I guess you just have to have faith." So, once gain, we see a two-tiered Christian system--one for Third World Christians and poor Western ones who have to have faith for their emotional and physical healing; and the other for more well-off people who can go to psychologists, psychiatrists, doctors, specialists, chiropractors, and so forth. Me thinks something stinks here.

What did the early church do? Was there perhaps Holy Spirit power and common sense counseling along with REAL discernment that got people healed? I bet there was. Now don't get me wrong--I'm not talking about this Third Wave revival fake stuff. I am talking about the real stuff.

John Wimber...rest in peace.

Tomorrow: anti-depressant drugs

Sunday, August 29, 2004

Sports Trivia

I am not a sports nut. But I do watch two sports year around in between the Olympics' seasons. I love college football, probably because I am an alumna of USC. that is the USC as in Pac-10 USC, NOT University of South Carolina....but as in University of Southern California. Yesterday USC, true to form, lagged behind in the first half and then caught up later. This type of playing and scoring seems to be a tradition for them. They always do this..for decades they have been doing this. It gives the alumni heart failure and I guess the other sports fans a sense of adventure.

The other sport that I watch occasionally is golf. I became intersted in it a year before Tiger hit the pro tour. And of course Tiger just made it even more interesting and exciting. I was really glad to see V. J. Singh do so well this year aw I have always been a fan of his.

At the Olympics, my very favoirte sport is women's gymnastics. I began to study up on it after the 1984 Olympics here in Los Angeles when the Russians "couldn't make it" and the Romanians stole our hearts here. Although now, without the communist state support and their dilapidated gyms and coaches' low salaries, the Romanian women still came through. I must admit I didn't always know which team to root for the most..my own USA team or the Romanians. Let's say I'm not sad the Romanians won the gold. And I'm not sad that an American won the all-around. It was almost exactly a repeat of the 1984 Olympics between the Romanians and Americans (the Romanians won the team then too as they did this year); and Mary Lou Retton vs. Romanian Ekaterina (Kati) Szabo. Szabo went to the Sports and Physical Ed. University in Romania, married a fellow Romanian athlete (an Olympic rower); and they both decided Romania was a dead country so moved to France and had a child, a boy. She works as a children's coach and loves it. See? I told you I knew something about women's gymnastics.

The other Olympic sports I like are the track races. The NYTimes had an interesting editorial today about how the swimmers just keep improving but for some reason the track and field people seems to have reached their peak. Of course the Times and yours truly here knows why.....the crackdown on drugs. They said, and I agree, that if there was this type of stringent drug testing in 1988, the world records set wouldn't have been set.

I also like swimming and recently this year got intrigued by those high divers who look as though they are doing gymnastics in the air. Wow!

Saturday, August 28, 2004

Old People-Part II

I. The Widows (and Elderly in general)

There is something that many pastors and Bible teachers do not tell you. There were TWO reasons God sent the Israelites into Babylonian captivity--not one. Yes, idol worship was one of the biggies, but it wasn't the only one. There was another reason too and this theme is carried over to the NT. What was upsetting God besides idol worhip was how the Israelites and especially their leaders were treating the widows and the orphans.

In the NT, in Acts and elsewhere, it seems the early Christians had the funny idea that THEY were supposed to support widows and orphans--not the State. That is, IF the widows had no family. If they did, even the Romans understood that the families were supposed to take care of their elderly parents--not the State.

But today, with Medicare and Social Security, churches have basically copped out of this task. And families? They have copped out too. I applaud Medicare and SS, but frankly many widows cannot live on that alone. And what do their chruches do for them? Nada. Nothing. I believe strongly that when judgement comes on the church in America (and it will), this is one HUGE area that God is going to bring before us.

It's bad enough that churches treat the elderly so disrespectfully in their churches, but then allowing many of them to wallow in poverty? Not so good.....

Then we have the poor married people--well actually mostly single parents--who are also hardly making it. Is the church helping them? No. They send themn to the Salvation Army, the Social Services Department of the State, and/or allow the federal government to take care of feeding their children at school. Then, the church turns around and criticises the government for doing these things. (scratching head)..I just cannot figure this out at all.

I realize that on the left, the liberals wish to get the government involved as a paternalistic parent. I am not in agreement with that. However, I wonder if you were God, what would you do if the church wouldn't help it's own? Maybe you would get the government to do it perhaps? While that probably isn't God's perfect way, at least it is a way to sustain poor Christians. The early church preached the pure gospel, taught and edified the church, and cared for their own widows and orphans without outside help. I've actually been in churches that helped the poor in the community but refused to help the poor in their own church. What's up with that nonsense??

Many Christians and churches have entered into what I call the "Vista" mentality. A few years ago, in Vista, Calfiornia, near San Diego, some Christians ran for the school board there. After carrying out their sneaky stealth politics, they won. Once in office they refused to accept the state breakfast program for poor students. Here is what their reasoning was: "The students should eat breakfast at home with their families." I don't know if these board menbers were just naive, or cruel, but fortunately they were kicked out of office rather soon. My question then is this: Where are the churches in Vista? Are they feeding poor children? Oh, they aren't? Then perhaps they should keep their mouths shut about federal and state feeding programs. Sadly, because the church has dropped the ball on this one, the large breakfst and lunch programs run by the governments come with the usual bloated beaucracy and strings attached. Why are churches so readily handing over their responsibility to the government, especially for their own members?

The church always seems to adopt a hands-off, poverty-mentality (we don't have the funds) stance. Sadly, the church is failing to see that it has been and always will be the sole answer to society's problems--by preaching Christ for redemtion, helping those who cannot help themselves, and exhorting those who need to be more responsible for their lives.

II-Orphans

There is a great article in this month's (Aug. 2004) issue of Charisma magazine. It challenges Christian families to consider taking in foster children. I've been in churches for 40 years and I cannot remember ever hearing or reading about this issue for Christians. I applaud Charisma and Anahid Schweikert who wrote the article, for delving into this important issue. The article also has many side bars helping the reader to answer nagging questions about real or imaginary problems that could happen when being a foster parent. Again, I emphasize that God is not winking at our lack of care for the elderly and orphans in our midst, nor in our country.

Hope this will get you thinking about these two very important topics.

Friday, August 27, 2004

Old People-Part I

I am reading a book entitled Gray Dawn by Peter G. Petersen. It was written in 1999 but is perhaps even more relevant today. It's about the aging population of developed countries like the United States and those in Europe, Japan, etc. He points out five areas of dramatic change in the next 25 years.

*In economics and business-How will they be impacted by the shrinking work force and requirements for more benefts for the elderly?

*In ethics-How will society handle increased medical costs as the elderly live longer? Will euthanasia become more accpetable? Who lives? Who dies? Who decides?

*In politics-How will increased elderly lobbying groups impact the political landscape?

*In culture-Currently the target group for movies and TV as well as much of the merchandising is the 18-34 year old group. How will this change in the future as the Baby Boomers, the largest age group, grows old?

*In world affairs-Will so much money be needed to support the aged that the military cannot be supported and the countries not defended adequately?

I would like to add another category--that of religion--specifically evangelical Christianity. As more of the population ages, the churches seem to be in a fantasy youth world where everything must center on the youth. As I have written previously here, this isn't healthy for the youth as they come to believe that everything including God centers around them.

I have predicted for years that in the future there would be church generational wars that would outeclipse the church racial tensions. And with this rush toward youth today, I firmly believe my own predictions made about 15 years ago.

On the other hand, I'm certainly not saying we should go overboard to center around the aging and ignore the youth. What we need is more balance.

And, we also need to really re-evaluate the church's role and mission to the elderly, especially within its own midst.

So, tomrorow, Part II will delve into the Bible's requirements for the church as to taking care of the elderly and foster children.

Thursday, August 26, 2004

Quest for Truths

Not to brag, but I have something in my personality that just will not enable nor excuse lying and dishonesty. In other words, I am not a codependent. It doesn't matter if it is "my guy," the leader of my political party; or "my guy," my church's pastor; or, "my guy," boyfriend. If they lie....I tend to say "Hasta la vista, baby!"

With that in mind then, here are some murky areas which we need truth to be shown:

Myth #1. The government's regular survey of how many people got jobs came out last week. The government was happy to report that 629,000 people found work in July. However, when the same government (USA one) asked companies how many people they had added to their payrolls, the answer was 32,000. Uh...that is a huge discrepancy. I mean I could see maybe 25,000 or 50,000, but almost 600,000??

In my state of California, here are the numbers:
The government survey of households shows 44,000 jobs gained; but companies surveyed here by the government showed 173,000 jobs cut. Hmmmm.
The government (specifically Dick Cheney) explains this by saying that people are starting businesses or working as consultants. Uh...Dick, you mean working as independent contractors...right? I know about independent contractors. It is basically why I have ben in the poorhouse for so many years. I worked for two places that made me an indepednent contractor. One was a Christian school. Did you know (at least it was this way a few years ago) that religious school teachers, but no other public nor private school teachers can be hired as independent contractors? In other words, they can be paid minimum wage (which I was paid) with no benefits, no unemployment, no IRA...nada.

Actually I like being an independent contractor as I am organized and work well from home on my own. BUT, I need to be paid living wages.

Myth #2. Exporting jobs to Asia and India isn't hurting anybody here except a very few factory workers. Yea..and I will sell you swamp land in Florida. Ask the programmers, telemarketers, customer service people, bookkeepers, etc., etc. if this is true.
In fact this type of thing has been going on a long time. 14 years ago I was at the unemployment office I canot tell you the number of construction workers--legal citizens..most born here--were in the there to file for unemployment benefits. And want to know why? The illegals were taking away their jobs. So, when you hear that the illegals are just taking away minimum wage jobs that nobody wants...yea.... right......snicker......snicker......snicker.

10 years ago, while I was volunteering at the library in between jobs, I met a humongous number of computer programmers over 45 who had been replaced by mostly Asians and Indians who the US government allowed to come over here BECAUSE the computer companies wailed and whined that they COULDN'T FIND ENOUGH PROGRAMMERS!
Enough of these lies!

Myth #3. We have a shortage of teachers. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha....any teachers out there wish to comment on this one?

Myth #4. Everyone should go to college so they will be successful and have a great job. This would be really funny if it wasn't so heart breaking, especially for inner city kids. Let's see, how many recent college grads are out of jobs?

Myth #5. Anyone in America can get a job, especially college graduates. Oh..no..I don't think so..McDonalds don't hire ex-engineers, teachers, financial managers, etc. I mean figure it out. Their managers are like 23. If you were 23 with no college education, would you hire a an out-of-work lawyer towork UNDER you fliiping burgers? Let's use some logic here. It's cruel to say this to a college grad. How any non-foreign, English-speaking only, over 40 college grads have you seen working at McDonalds or Wal-Mart or the mall?

Oh...no one?

Myth #6. Okay, I will relent and give the Bush adminsitration some credit here. This is from a letter to the editor page of my local paper (not the Los Angeles Times....my town's paper).

"In these past years, President George W. Bush liberated two countries, got rid of the oppressive Taliban (and retrieved the missionaries who were being held hostage there), crippled al-Queda, put nuclear inspectors in Libya, Iran and North Korea without war there, and captured the wicked Saddam Hussein, who slaughtered 300,000 of his own people."

Amen. The only correction I would make to the above is "got rid of the oppressive Taliban." Read my summary of Imperial Hubris for more info on that one.

Wednesday, August 25, 2004

The Christian Singles' Wars

One of my favorite blogs is over at TotemtoTemple.
From time to time he relates his trials and travails being a Christian single adult in the church.

I wish I could say that his blogs on this subject bring back fond bliss. But unfortunately, I too was one of the thousands of Christian singles caught in the Christian Singles' Wars.

Here is how it goes:
-->You as a single person walk into a brand new church by yourself, which in itself is a difficult feat. They may or may not greet you, but if they do, they quickly go onto the next married couple coming in the door, spending a very long time gushing over them. When you go back for a second visit the next week, you could drop dead on the floor and no one would notice.

SOLUTION: Wear a wedding-looking ring on your left hand. You would be amazed how much attention from church leaders this will get you.

-->You are told that the only group for you is the dreaded group from hell---the Singles Group. You visit once and decide that there is no way you can function in this largely dysfunctional group of people.

SOLUTION: Volunteer for a helps ministry like teaching Sunday School or ushering or the sound system or greeting visitors or etc. This way you actually can meet a few married people. Once the church leaders see you hanging around married people, you will too be readily acceptd.

-->You feel like you are being treated as an alien from Mars. (well, actually you are).

SOULTION:Write a book and do everything you can to get it published even if you have to self-publish and beg Christian bookstores to take it on consignment. In the book tell how badly singles are treated in churches. Make sure your name is in BIG BOLD letters on the book's cover. This will surely embarrass your church's leaders and perhaps they will make changes.

-->You have found yourself in a highly advertised "family church." They tout how they exist for the whole family. Unfortunately you find that their definition of family, and your definition of family is world's apart. Their definition is the nuclear family...meaning dad, mom and children...not God's family. In other words, old widows and widowers and younger singles need not apply.

SOLUTION: Run as fast as you can out of there. Otherwise you will end up paying tens of thousands of dollars to your Christian psychologist helping you to get over the massive rejection.

One more word: Good luck...you'll need it. From what I read at
TotemtoTemple, nothing at all has changed in the past 35 years since I started to participate in the Singles' Wars. Luckily for me, I woke up and got out 25 years ago. And no, it wasn't through marriage......hey.........

that's cheating......:)

Tuesday, August 24, 2004

Fantasy Flights

Fantasy Flight #1-That Paul Hamm without being coaxed, asked, pressured or even suggested give his gold medal to Yang Tae Young. [Olympic men's gymnastics]

Fantasy Flight #2-That either Kim Dae Yun gives up his silver to Paul Hamm and accepts the bronze; or, Paul Hamm accepts the bronze.

Fantasy Flight #3-That Maurice Greene apologize for being so arrogant. [Olympic mens' track and field]

Fantasy Flight #4-That Jerry Falwell finally admits that Thomas Jefferson along with many other "founding fathers" were NOT Christians.

Fantasy Flight #5-That the Christian Right focuses more on the true Christian founding fathers like Jonathan Edwards and James Madison. Oh...but then they might have to adopt a more Reformed theology. It's easier theologically to focus on the humanists I guess.

Fantasy Flight #6-That the Christian Right finally admits there is no Judeo-Christian ethic; that it doesn't exist; that it is their fantasy. You either have Judeo (Jewish law), or Christian (the gospel of grace). Take your pick. Oh....they have...they chose Judeo. [there is nothing anti-Semitic in my prior comments by the way]

Fantasy Flight #7-That the Christian Right admits that law doesn't work and that our country is worse off than when they began their Judeo-Christian crusade 30 years ago.

Fantasy Flight #6-That George W. Bush and other neocons would read "Imperial Hubris" and perhaps even Pat Buchanan's new book.

Fantasy Flight #7-That churches finally allow singles to mingle with married people and treat singles as adults, rather than childish aliens from Mars. (see tomorrow's blog)

Fantasy Flight #8-That the Third Wave revival leaders finally admit that things aren't changing around them as much as they are bragging. (see my blogs a couple of weeks ago on this issue).

Fantasy Flight #9-That the Christian Right finally decides to encourage Christians to evangelize to change the country. Now that is a novel idea!

Fantasy Flight #10-That Bill O'Reilly's radio program beats the pants off of Rush Limbaugh's listeners.....numbers-wise.

And now for some fulfilled fantasies
#1-That finally someone spilled the "dope" on the doping. Thank you Trevor Graham. Now maybe this will be cleaned up...at least until the next Olympics huh...LOL.

#2-That Internet Christian forums, email discussion lists and blogs exist. At last we can hear from the congregants. I doubt whether most church leaders read this stuff...but at least it's out there.



Monday, August 23, 2004

Mopping UP

Here are some tidbits which seem to support "Imperial Hubris"'s themes. They are from my regional paper, the Los Angeles Times (yes, I know it is waaaaay liberal).

---->From Page 1, Aug. 15 issue:
Cyberspace Gives Al Queda Refuge
The article is by Times Staff Writers Douglas Frantz, Josh Meyer and Richard B Schmitt. They have found that although Al Queda may have been driven underground,they are alive and well on the Internet.
"Websites run by terrorists and their backers have become virtual classrooms for terrorists, offering instructions for activities such as kidnapping and using cellphones to set off bombs. Independent Al Queda cells and the network's loose hierarchy use easily available encoding techniques to exchange virtually undetectable messages between Internet cafes in Karcachi and libraries in London."

I think what sticks out in the article the most to me is how flexible and loose the organization is. In other words, it is organized somewhat but not rigidly so. It is like a river that has lots of outlets...flowing here and there. When the U.S. and its allies finds one rivelet, another one forms and so on ad infitum. A very perplexing situation indeed.

--->From The Aug. 22 Opinion section of the Times:
This is very interesting to me as I've studied organizational structures of businesses and churches for a long time now.
Rajan Menon, professor at Lehigh University, compares Al Queda to Gerneral Motors and concludes that they are very much the same.
A few of his observations:
*Both are multinational organizations
*Both have worldwide reach with a central organization directing affiliates.
*Both thrive in a world of porous borders
*Both are hoping for a true global community without sovereign states. GM ishes to sell its products without red tape and interference; al Queda to establish their faith without interference from various countries.
*Both rely on high-speed transportation, computerized global banking networks, and information systems that enable spontaneous communciation.

-->A thought from me:
After Vietnam, I thought our military leaders and strategy thinkers were supposed to sit down during the decades following and work out HOW to fight guerilla warfare. But after the Iraq debacles, I don't think they did such a hot jub, if they did anything at all

----->A funny item in the L.A. Times:
I hope this won't offend my American Christian readers since it is about beer. But this is interesting to me as I have always been interested in the intelligence of various breeds of animals. For example, I've been following Koko the gorilla's progress in learning sign language and the things she says and comes up with. It is truly amazing. You can read about her linguistic abilities at koko.org

It seems a bear at a lake in the state of Wasgington got into some camper's coolers and took out cans of beer. At first it tried some Busch beer. But it didn't like that brand because then it opened some Ranier beer. It liked the Ranier beer so much that it chose to ignore the other cans of Busch and drank 5 more cans of only Ranier. The park rangers tried to chase it away, but the bear was sound asleep from the beer. Finally when it awoke, the rangers were able to convince it to leave.......LOL::::)


Friday, August 20, 2004

Imperial Hubris...the book

Whether or not you agree with this book, I feel strongly it is a must read. Here is my complete summary after reading it thoroughly.

Imperial Hubris: Why the West is Losing the War on Terror
By Anonymous


The author has two main themes in this book. The first is that the United States wants to see Bin Laden as they want him to be, not as he actually is. The second theme centers on what the Intelligence community is doing, or rather not doing which is not paying ttention to what the author calls “checkables.” Checkables are those items that we can learn from our spying, other intelligence work, and especially what the Muslim leaders say and write themselves. The third theme is that we are not fighting terrorists, but insurgents. If we don’t have this right, we will be fighting them as terrorists one way, when we should be fighting them as insurgents another way.

The author says he spent at least two decades in the United states Intelligence agencies. His main assignment through much of this time was reading and analyzing Bin Laden speeches and writings as well as other Muslim fundamentalists’ writings and speeches.

The author states that he is not presenting this information because he necessarily agrees with the Muslims’ assessments. At times he does and at times he doesn’t. But rather, he wishes us to really know our enemy and he doesn’t think we do.

He opens the book by telling Americans what they really are not hearing from our government nor media sources: that is, what Bin Laden is really saying and thinking, especially to not only the American government but to the people.

Here is one sample: “You run a society contrary to the nature of mankind by separating religion from your politics. For Muslims, God’s word as He revealed it in the Koran and the Prophets’ sayings and traditions (the Sunnah)-are meant to guide all aspects of life: personal, familial, societal, political and International. God makes laws, man does not. “

Bin Laden is holding the American people responsible too since they have a democracy which elects the leaders which sets policy. The author points out that Bin Laden didn't have a problem with democratic governments before--he let them live without incident. Although he didn't approve of our lifestyle and type of government, he didn't interfere with it. Then why is he up in arms now? It's becuase of our recent policies which he believes are against Muslims. That is what has stirred up the hornets nest..not who we are...but what we do.

He helps us to understand that most Muslims do not understand nor accept the separation of church and state. When the Christian Right expresses something against Muslims and in favor of the Jews for instance, the Muslim leaders like Bin Laden think that these Christian leaders are speaking for the government and that they influence the government much more than in reality they do. They also think these statements from people like Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, etc. have a huge impact on American societal thinking BECAUSE in the Muslims’ frame of reference in their countries, whatever their imams speak has a huge impact on their society. In other words, it isn’t separated. Whatever the imams say, the people tend to think. They do no understand that in America it is much different in the arena of ideas.
The author continues by presenting some points of how Muslims view life which the author thinks is not understood in America.
 Muslims view life and their dealings with others through an all encompassing Muslim prism.
 Their faith influences their life, defines it, and directs it at a level outsiders would find difficult to comprehend.
 The Muslim believes it is every Muslim’s duty to defend Muslim territory when attacked.
 Jihad is divided into two parts in the Muslim world:
1. offensive jihad
2. defensive jihad
So far we really have not seen offensive jihad as much as defensive. In jihad, the Muslim needs no central authority to direct it (although they might have some central authorities like Bin Laden to organize it). The Muslim understands that if they are attacked, they attack back immediately.

It isn’t who we are that is inflaming the Muslim community, although that is what we are continually hearing from the Bush administration. It is what we are doing—our policies in Muslim lands that is problematic to them.

Here in a nutshell he presents what America wants the Muslims to do but they cannot.
 America wants Muslims to refrain from defensive jihad. They cannot do that and follow their faith.
 America wants Muslims to stop supporting [certain] charitable groups that the U.S. thinks are funding terrorists. They cannot do that since tithing is one of the five pillars of Islam.
 America wants the Muslim school curriculum to be less religious. They cannot do this since their religion and education go hand in hand. Remember that their religion pervades throughout their whole life---they do not compartmentalize their faith like many Americans do theirs.

American policy supports certain aggressions against Muslim populations in various countries. The Muslim sees this as an attack and therefore must participate in jihad according to the Koran. Some examples of U.S. meddling and/or support:
Hindu India in Kashmir, Catholic Filipinos in Mindanao, Orthodox Russian Christians in Chechnya, Chinese Communists in Xinjiang Province, apostate al-Saud in Arabia, Israeli Jews in Palestine.

In addition, U.S. military troops have been sent to help in some of these places and the U.S. is also seen as trying to control Arab oil.

Muslims see these things as a direct attack by the U.S.

Afghanistan
The war in Afghanistan, in the author’s opinion, was lost from the beginning. It was a half-hearted, poorly executed war. The borders were not sufficiently closed and the war was too long delayed allowing both Al Queda and Taliban members to escape out of the country, or at least to go back to Afghan villages and blend in. Contrary to what the Bush administration is telling us, this author says that intelligence knows that Al Queda and Taliban are simply resting and regrouping. They haven’t been “broken” or defeated at all.

In the 2nd half of 2003 and early 2004 the Al Queda-Taliban attacks on the Karzai regime has increased, not stopped.

There are 7 pillars of checkables that the author says the intelligence community and the government needs to understand about Afghanistan.
Historically…..
1. Minorities cannot rule for long in Kabul (the capital). But today we have a minority Tajik government, thereby slighting the majority Pushtuns.
2. Afghans ARE Muslims—not pro-western.
3. Afghans cannot be bought. U.S. soldiers are the ones being duped by paying huge sums of money to them. They will end up doing what they want to do anyway whether we pay them or not.
4. Strong governments in Kabul cause war because Afghanistan is a very tribal country and resists strong central rule.
5. Different countries are once again arming different Afghani groups and warlords which will cause more civil war.
6. Pakistan must have a Pushtun government or it itself will become unstable as civil war will spill over the border.
7. There will definitely be an Islamist regime in Kabul no matter what Donald Rumsfeld says.

Not Terrorists, but Insurgents
Question: what do Iraq, Lebanon and the Internet have in common?
Answer: New fields for Al Queda
Iraq was a dream gift for Bin Laden as it mobilized even further the Muslim world in jihad against the United States. The author says that Iraq now will be forever a burden to the Untied States which will have to be its forever caretaker.

Victories of the U.S. and its allies between 2011-2004 against al Queda:
30

Victories of al Queda between 2001-2003
73

The author’s guidelines for winning
 Accept that we are hated, NOT misunderstood.
 Get used to killing insurgents, NOT just arresting terrorists. Professional soldiers he says are paid to kill and to die if they must. We are at war, not only in a terrorist CIA action.
 Others will not do our duty for us, Forget UN mandates and alliance building. If it happens and they want to get on board fine, but don’t seek it.
 Do the checkables and demand expertise and responsibility from the Intelligence community AND the government.
 Deal with Bin Laden and al Queda as an insurgency group, NOT a terrorist group. He is waging war and we cannot defeat him with CIA and FBI overseas actions and law activities and arrests.
 Demand energy self-sufficiency so that the U.S. government will stop propping up corrupt Arab regimes., This is one prime reason for the jihad against us.
 Islam is at war with the U.S. although the U.S. government keeps denying this.
 Senior military and Intelligence retirees are a problem because when they near retirement they do not wish to sabotage their chances for a cushy non-government job by telling government leaders the truth. Pay good pensions so they can really retire and encourage honesty and integrity among them. These intelligence and military leaders are cowards (what the author calls them) because are NOT getting the correct information up to the government leaders.
 Be discriminating where we get involved in the world.

So that is it. The one thing that I found frustrating is that the author never really defines "terrorist" nor insurgent" for us. I guess for that we must consult a dictionary?








Monday, August 16, 2004

Stay Tuned....

Stay tuned at the end of the week for my big, big summary-review of a very important book that I think everyone should read. It is the best selling book, Imperial Hubris by Anonymous.

The main thesis of the book is that we are NOT winning nor will win the war against Al Queda and terrorism because we do not understand what they really are saying. In other words, our government is seeing Bin Ladn and Al Queda the way they want to see them; not as they really are.

Sunday, August 15, 2004

Poll: Going to Church

A shortie blog today:

Over at the portal, IWON, they have a daily survey one may take. After answering the 4-5 questions, you can see the results. Today the topic was Spirituality.

The first question was:
How often do you go to church?
Here are the results:

Go to church daily-1%
Go to church several times a week-5%
Go to church weekly-15%
Go to church a few times a month-6%
Go to church monthly-2%
Go to church a few times a year-19%
Go to church yearly-5%
Go to church only on important religious holidays-6%
Not sure-5%
I don't care-1%

And now for the real shocker:
Never go to church-34%

Methinks this might not be a Christian country after all....and perhaps the church has its work cut out for it....maybe ya think?

Friday, August 13, 2004

Not What We Do---But Who We Are

It's time that we understand that the Christian life is not just about what we do. But, what we do comes out of who we are. So how would that understanding change certain ideas and Biblical concepts? Let's take a look at a few and see......

Healing:Healing isn't something God does; it's who He is. One of His redemptive names is Jehovah Rapha, meaning I am Healing. Not, I do Healing.
We have Christ in us and so we can heal too....because of who we are in Christ. Of course this breaks down if the darkness of our flesh is allowed to dominate the Spirit of Christ in us. That is why we aren't seeing healing. There are too many churches and ministries teaching the HOW of healing; in other words, formulas; instead of helping people to grow INTO maturity so that healing and other Christ-like gifts and character simply exudes out of us as a matter of course.

How about alcoholism, adultry, fornication, drugs and homosexuality? We often will say, "that person got out of that." By that we mean, they stopped doing "it."
But in reality, so much of othe time, they haven't really changed their desires and/or their thinking. Alcoholics Anonymous has an excellent term for this. A person who has stopped drinking BUT still has the alcoholic mentality is called a dry drunk and their thinking is called stinkin' thinkin'.

I would submit that many of our evangelical pators that have gotten off preaching the cross; off the gospel; some becoming ultra-controlling are simply dry druggies. They have never gotten rid of the drug mentality of control, rebellion and do your own thingism. In other words, the 60's invaded the church and never went away.

We can do better. We need to confront this thinking and root out the WHOLE problem at its foundations, not being satisfied with being told, "well, I don't do that anymore." That is too easy.

Thursday, August 12, 2004

Girls Selling Out?

The Internet Monk has a must read. Please do go to his post entitled Girls Tradin' Up.

This article has triggered off my 25-year research into codependency and control. So, I think it might be time to blog about what I have found during all those years. You can get a sneak peek at some of it at my 6-page website--The Faustian Covenant.

So, to prepare for tomorrow's blog, do read the Internet Monk article above.

Wednesday, August 11, 2004

Israel???

I need your help. I kieep going back and forth between the two theologies concerning the place of Israel today.

First, there is replacement theology which says that the Church is Israel--Spiritual Israel if you must, and God's covenant with the physical land and people was broken with the veil of the Temple when Jesus was crucified.

Then, the other side says..no...there are like two streams of covenant. One is the Church and the other is Israel.

I tend toward the Replacement theology view but there are certainly scriptures that might indicate the other view.

Whatever the truth is, there are two aspects of this that are becoming increasingly disturbing me.

First, Some in the evangelical fold (i.e. John Hagee) say that we do not need to convert Jews because they are already saved. Well, then I guess we need to throw out the entire book of Romans......except for that pesky little verse in chapter 11, verse 26 where it says, "And so all of Israel will be saved.."

I have to admit this verse really frustrates me. What in the world do we do with that? However, no way do I believe that the Jews cannot be saved outside of Christ. It is my opinion then that Hagee and company are absolutely wrong on that.

Now for the other problem. The big book out this week that is hitting the top ten on both Barnes & Noble.com and amazon.com is Michael Evans' book on America's place in prophecy. He takes the view that as long as America supports Israel we will be alright. But, if we turn against Israel...well then, woe to us.

So let me see if I am getting this right. If America keeps on with their moral downslide including much of the Church here sliding down with it, God will just wink at that and say essentially, "No problemo. Since you are supporting Israel, I will support you."

But, if somehow we have a great revival and the whole country turns around including the Church here, BUT we do not support Israel (which probably wouldn't happen if there was a revival..but let's hypothesize for a moment), then God would say, "Woe to you..you are a dead duck country. Hasta la vista Baby."

Something doesn't sound quite right here.

Tuesday, August 10, 2004

Utterly Amazing!

Just when I think I've heard everything done in the Third Wave revival movement, something else pops up to astound me.

Here is the latest:
From the Elijah list--a prophetess is saying that Christians will sign up for a booth at secular psychic fairs and interpret dreams...via the Holy Spirit of course. Or they think. I'm not that sure it is the Holy Spirit that is in this dream interpretation business. Yes, I know the OT says that we will dream dreams. But that is Holy Spirit led. This "ministry" seems to be just any Christian interpreting dreams. I'm not sure that is what the OT means.

On another Third Wave note--I was talking to a young college friend of mine yesterday on IM. She was involved with a church that got into this 3rd wave stuff. After reading my posts on prayer walking, she said they used to do that in her church around her high school. I then asked her if things had changed in her former high school. Yes they had...but not for the better. She said the Bible Club died and many of the Christian teachers left. She says she understands that the school has gone down in other areas too.

The Third Wave strikes again.

Sigh................

People may wonder why I'm on such a high horse about the Third Wave. One of the main reasons is the fact it is spreading so fast...similarly to a plague. Add to that the fact that so much of this IMO is occultic and I am majorly concerned. I mean majorly.

Monday, August 09, 2004

The Homeless

Daily M-F I listen to a talk show out here in L.A. that is the most listened to talk program here on the most listened to talk radio station in the United States in fact.

The talk guys on this program are neither conservative nor liberal; but take each issue on what they believe is right.

About a year or so ago they had on one of the leading homelss advocates, an Afro-American with the dreadlocks and the whole liberal victim attitude. Or so I thought. I was pleasantly surprised by this guy's education and communication skills.

He said something that really shocked me as you never hear this type of thing from the typical homeles advocate. He said that it wasn't the mostly Democratic homeless advocacy groups that were helping the homeless because they wanted to keep their $75,000 a year jobs. So, if homelessness was ended in a certain place, these advocates would be out of a job. He said that all they did was study, study, study the problem; but never resolved it nor helped it.

He further went on to say that he was surprised that it was the Republican businessmen that really cared for the homeless as they wanted to find ways to employ them.

I would ask what the churches are doing? Are they helping the homeless get trained? Are they helping them with their victim and drug mentality? You know, churches can get funding now from the government. I don't think individual churches should do this necessarily, but perhaps if several churches combine together? Of course the Salvation Army does this and they do it fairly well. So if there is a SA in your town, does your church support it? The mainline churches do it here but not any evangelical one..sad.

But if the SA isn't in your town, can a few churches combine to get a program started for the homeless and the poor?

Here is a wonderful story sent to me in email by a friend:

Republicans vs. Democrats

A Republican and a Democrat were walking down the street when they came upon a homeless person. The Republican gave the homeless person his business card and told him to come to his office for a job. He then took twenty dollars out of his pocket and gave it to the homeless person.

The Democrat was very impressed, and when they came to another homeless person, he decided to help. He walked over to the homeless person and gave him directions to the welfare office. He then reached into the
Republican's pocket and took twenty dollars. He kept 15 for administrative fees/taxes and gave the homeless person five.

Now you understand the difference between Republicans and Democrats.



Sunday, August 08, 2004

A Christian Nation?

More and more of us evangelicals are seeing the folly of a so-called Christian nation. In other words, one that is mandated from the government. I just read a brilliant synopsis of why this would NOT be a good idea.

I encourage you to read it at A King or an Official Christian Nation over at totemtotemple's blog.

Thursday, August 05, 2004

"Other" Stats

OK..I want to be fair. Yesterday I gave Michael Kinsley's interpretation of some government stats. They showed the Republicans in kind of a bad light.

So, to give equal time, today let's look a the figures presented yesterday in The New York Times by George Schultz, the former (conservative) Secretary of State under Republican administrations.

He takes his info from this website:
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If you look at the chart, it shows sharp recessions at the beginning of both the Bush I and Bush II administrations. However, by the second year of their administrations, both the GDP and the unemployment rate shoots up. During the whole Clinton administration it's sort of in a straight trend. It goes a little up, then a little down, then a little up, then a little down and so forth.

And so , the dialogue and the partisan war continues..........

And people are going to hell......................

becuse we are arguing politics too much (which I have also succumbed to in the past two days).

Tomorrow, let's intestigate why we need the federal government to legislate our morality. Or should they?

Wednesday, August 04, 2004

Do the Math

A lot of what I do here on this blog is point out half-truths and outright lies within Christendom. I believe we can do better as Christians. And certainly, our Chrsitian leaders should.

I've already pointed out previously that there are two main ofenders IMO--The Third Wave which I've already blogged about; and the Christian Right--and now it's their turn to be in the questioning chair.

Disclaimer:Before I start today let me say that I've been a lifelong conservative (Goldwater) Republican before people start to throw mud.

The Christian Right makes all sorts of intesting claims that many times, if not most of the times, turn out to be either half-true or just plain wrong. For example, they were constantly telling us years ago about our Christian founding fathers. The problem was they were blurring those who were Puritans and those who lived a century later, many of whom were NOT Christians, but deists or some other faith/religion/philosophy. But when even Christian historians began to point this out to them, they at least acknowledged it and now generally tell us our founding fathers, whom we now know means those who wrote our Constitution, believed in God. Well, yes, but I would ask, which God? If someone denies Jesus being the Son of God and doing miracles, is that the real God? If someone denies that God did any miracles in the OT and in fact it is just too, too silly to think that, what "god" is that person worshipping? By the way, I've just described Thomas Jefferson. And, yes I know he was in France during this time, but he had a tremendous influence on many who were Contitutional delegates. Were any of them Christians? A few. Thank goodness that the foundation of the Constitution was formed by James Madison, a dedicated Presbyterian. Those were in the days when Presbyterians were acutally Christians....:)

The Christian Right also tells us that if we support them and send them money, they will see that people are elected to office that will solve our moral problems. I guess none of these people lived during Prohibition. By the way, that was the only amendment to the Constitution that failed. Intersting huh. You cannot legislate morality...you must convert people. So, why pass moral laws? Let's examine that tomorrow.

Abortions have gone down as has drug use but only among teens. But what the Christian Right doesn't remind you of is the population of teens and child bearing women has gone down too.

Here are some more figures that wouldn't make the Christian Right happy. But we must face the truth. I don't think God is going to have a breakdown if the truth is presented.

Michael Kinsley wrote an intersting Op/Ed piece in the Los Angeles Times last Sunday. I realize that Michael Kinsley is ultra-ultra liberal but he does gets his figures from the gpoaccess website (www.gpoaccess.gov/eop/index.html).

Here is what he found there:
The difference between Democratic president administrations and Republican president administrations between 1960-2002. To be fair, he gave the figures after the president had been in office for one year as to not confuse what was done in a previous administration:

*Real economic growth--under Democrats=4.09%/under Republicans=2.75%
*Unemployment--under Dems=5.33%/Reps=6.44%
*Federal spending--under Dems=19.58%/Reps=20.87%
*If defense spending is excluded the fed. spending under Dems=13.76%/Reps=14.97%
*Inflation--Dems=3.81%/Reps=4.85%
*Annual deficits--Dems=1.21%/Reps=2.74%

There were two areas where Repulicans were ahead:
Personal income--under Dems=$15,565/Reps=$16,061
*taxes--under Dems=18.39% of the GDP/Reps=18.12% of the GDP



Tuesday, August 03, 2004

Wilberforce

Charles Colson writes in the Aug. 2004 issue of Christianity Today about Christian involvement in politics. He favors it. He believes we need to do a whole lot more than jus...uh....evangelize.

He gives as an example William Wilberforce, the late 18th-early 19th century English lawmaker who almost singlehandedly got rid of slavery.

First, let's examine Wilberforce and see if that example really applies to our country today.

Where the Wilberforce analogy falls down is when we learn the facts around his morivation and his method. First, He wasn't elected to Parliament since he was LORD Wilberforce and therefore automatically had a seat in the House of Lords. So no one was out whipping up votes for him.
Second, he was converted through the Wesleyan revivals and that changed his view toward slavery. I believe the majority of so-caleld lawmakers we are trying to get into office today are NOT Christians. And that isn't bad, except they can be easily persuaded to not carry thorugh their message.

In fact Wilberforce didn't wish to take his Parliamentary seat, but friends persuaded him to do it. OK...so we have a good Christian lawmaker in Parliament. So far so good. Meanwhile, the Christians understood that they needed to get people CONVERTED in order to change things. Wilberforce was going up against--not public opinion which was tunring in favor of anti-slavery in the English colonies-but the powerful shipping companies. THEY were the one who needed conversion. I cannot find anything that tells me if anyone was bothering to get the heads of those companies the gospel. I know, very, very few of the evangelical community here today is doing much to reach the upper and upper-middle classs of this country. Nor are they doing much to reach the liberal college and university left professors. There is an obssession among evangelicals to reach the poor. That is nice but the poor won't change the country.

The only way to change this culture is through conversion. According to Romans 10, conversion can ONLY occur when someone preaches the gospel. That is, the gospel of Christ--not the "gospel" and half-truths of the Christian Right. The Christian Right and conservative lawmakers are strangely silent about the role of companies and the heads of media. But then we can understand why--just follow the money trail.
We've been sold out.

I again encourage you to read the book by two men who helped Jerry Falwell found the Moral Majority in the middle 70's. It took these two 25 years to understand what I am saying here. But at least they saw the light. The authors are Cal Thomas, the syndicated colunist; and, Ed Dobson, a pastor. The book is entitled Blinded by Might: Can the Relgiious Right Save America? It is a rhetorical question--and the answer is......
NO!

Monday, August 02, 2004

The Three Streams

There seems to be three main streams of wrong Christianity today. All three either outright lie, or at least tell half-truths and don't seem to be too accountable to answer their critics.

The first stream is the one we've spent a week on--The Third Wave revivalists (i.e. Toronto, Pensacola, etc.).

The second one is the one we will be looking at more this week--The so-called Christian Right.

And, the third one is the Seeker Sensitive movement (i.e. Willowcreek, Saddlebrook, etc.)

There are two more that are too small to really worry about although I might take them on in teh future. They are the Open View (also called open theism) and Unviersalism (the so-called "Christian" version that is).

The three characteristics of all three streams are:
1) They outright lie and/or tell half-truths
2) They don't adequately and Scripturally answer their critics (and in some instances are very mean and nasty to them....for instance...poor Hank Hannegraf)
3)They don't preach Christ and the gospel

The third characteristic of course is the most egregious.

OK..so hang on to your seats as we examine the Christian Right this week.


Sunday, August 01, 2004

How Would Jesus Vote?

Today I recommend reading Michael Spencer's blog.

And then that will begin a series here on the Christian Right.